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Combat Rogue professions PvE

Best pair for a Combat Rogue in PvE: Engineering and Mining.

As of · build 1.60.1.70450 · Forecast

This spec's professions are ranked for PvE and for PvP.

How we ranked them

How much a profession helps this spec, leveling 1 to 60 and then in level-60 dungeons and raids. Gear the spec never wears and consumables it never uses count for nothing.

The subjects are all twelve professions: six crafting, three gathering and three secondary.

Each entry names its best partner: the primary profession that does the most for this spec beside it. The spec's best pair is its best-ranked primary and that entry's partner.

A forecast. Forever's item stats aren't public yet, so gear scores rest on what each item binds to and on Classic's values; raid gear counts from 9 Dec, when raids open.

Forever moved the healing potions from Alchemy to First Aid, and its camp items' buffs don't stack with the matching class buffs: both change the Classic answer for many specs.

Each criterion is scored against fixed anchors, then rescaled within this spec's twelve so the best scores 5 and the worst 1. A criterion whose twelve scores span one point or less keeps them as scored.

The rubric: each criterion scored 1 to 5
CriterionWeightWhat it measures
Self-use at 6040Measured against these anchors, then rescaled so the best of the twelve scores 5 and the worst 1. It makes bind-on-pickup gear or items this spec wears or uses in raids and can't get any other way, or consumables it uses every raid night that would cost real gold to buy: 5. Useful self-made items it could also buy on the auction house, or one bind-on-pickup piece that is a modest upgrade: 3. Nothing this spec wears or uses at 60: 1.
Leveling help25Measured against these anchors, then rescaled so the best of the twelve scores 5 and the worst 1. Upgrades this spec's gear or kill speed throughout 1–60, or turns its own kills and travel into income or supplies as it levels: 5. Helps for part of the climb, or saves some gold and downtime: 3. Takes time and gold while leveling and gives this spec nothing back until 60: 1.
Gold20Not scored here: the profession's score on the Professions for Gold: Settled list, rounded half up, then rescaled with the other criteria. It is the same on every spec's list.
Utility15Measured against these anchors, then rescaled so the best of the twelve scores 5 and the worst 1. Something no other profession gives this spec, used often: Jumper Cables, transmutes, a camp item it relies on: 5. An occasional convenience: 3. None: 1.

What each tier means

An entry’s tier comes from its weighted score. A tier set by hand instead says why in its write-up. Within a tier, the best score comes first.

S 4.25 or more
The best choice for this purpose. Strong on the criteria that count most, with no real weakness.
A 3.75 or more
Very strong. A little behind S, or one clear weakness.
B 3.25 or more
Good. Does the job well without special effort.
C 2.75 or more
Workable. About average on the rubric; nothing stands out either way.
D 2.25 or more
Weak. It works, but you will feel the gap; pick it for other reasons.
F below 2.25
Poor for this purpose. Avoid it unless something else decides for you.

What the ratings assume

  • The game rules of the stated build. The list is re-rated on a patch that moves a score.
  • A character that levels 1 to 60 and then runs dungeons and raids as this spec; raids count from 9 Dec.
  • The profession is leveled alongside the character, reaching 300 at or soon after 60.
  • No Legacy perks.
  • Gathering, crafting, the auction house and vendors only.

Confidence: Forecast

Rated from the client data and our research, before anyone has played it at this level on this build. Where the data stops, the write-up says what it assumed.

Why each profession is where it is

Choose a profession on the chart to see why it sits where it does.

Engineering A tier

Thrown bomb satchels, Net-o-Matic root and camp tools no other profession gives a Rogue, though stats are untested.

Best partner: Mining

Scores for Engineering
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 5
Leveling help25 4
Gold20 1
Utility15 5

Weighted score 3.95, which is A tier.

Self-use at 60, 5 of 5: BoP Thrown Bomb Satchels (Copper 85 to Dark Iron 285) are new and Rogues can learn Thrown; stats are not in the data and untested in game.

Leveling help, 4 of 5: Satchel of Copper Bombs from skill 85-90, grenades and Net-o-Matic help kills mid-climb but cost metal and the 1-minute shared cooldown limits them.

Utility, 5 of 5: Goblin Jumper Cables (160, BoP schematic), Net-o-Matic root, Repair Bot and Reagent Bot camp items; nothing else gives a Rogue these.

Gold, 1 of 5: 1.95 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Mining beside it: Metal feeds its schematics and bombs.

It is not S: it scores 1 of 5 on gold, and its 3.95 is 0.30 short of S.

Strengths

  • Self-use at 60, 5 of 5
  • Leveling help, 4 of 5
  • Utility, 5 of 5

Weaknesses

  • Gold, 1 of 5

What would move it: Its gold score follows the Professions for Gold: Settled list; a better reading there would lift it.

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Alchemy A tier

Raid-night melee elixirs a Rogue would otherwise buy, though leveling skill-ups cost herbs and gold.

Best partner: Herbalism

Scores for Alchemy
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 5
Leveling help25 2
Gold20 5
Utility15 2

Weighted score 3.80, which is A tier.

Self-use at 60, 5 of 5: Mongoose, Grizzly, Ferocity, Giants and Mighty Rage are raid-night melee consumables that would cost gold to buy; effects of the new elixirs are unverified.

Leveling help, 2 of 5: Potions and the Frenzy line (45-295) sell for some income, but skill-ups cost herbs and gold and nothing upgrades Rogue kill speed.

Utility, 2 of 5: Transmutes (Arcanite 275), Lesser and Invisibility potions and Free Action are occasional conveniences; Mana Well camp item is useless to a Rogue.

Gold, 5 of 5: 4.15 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Herbalism beside it: Herbs feed its potions and give the Rogue travel income.

It is not S: it scores 2 of 5 on leveling help, and its 3.80 is 0.45 short of S.

Strengths

  • Self-use at 60, 5 of 5
  • Gold, 5 of 5

Weaknesses

  • Leveling help, 2 of 5
  • Utility, 2 of 5

What would move it: Better leveling help for this spec, from a patch or from item stats once Forever publishes them, would lift it; relative scores also move when another profession's evidence changes.

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First Aid A tier

Bandages and potions cut leveling downtime and gold, and Anti-Venom works in combat.

Best partner: Herbalism

Scores for First Aid
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 4
Leveling help25 5
Gold20 3
Utility15 2

Weighted score 3.75, which is A tier.

Self-use at 60, 4 of 5: Bandages, healing potions and anti-venom are buyable consumables used in raids; First Aid Kit Stamina buff copies Power Word: Fortitude.

Leveling help, 5 of 5: Bandages (Linen to Heavy Runecloth) and potions cut downtime and gold for a lone leveler.

Utility, 2 of 5: Anti-Venom works in combat and poultices and tourniquets cure what a Rogue's kit cannot.

Gold, 3 of 5: 2.65 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Herbalism beside it: Healing potions need herbs, which Herbalism supplies.

It is not S: it scores 2 of 5 on utility, and its 3.75 is 0.50 short of S.

Strengths

  • Self-use at 60, 4 of 5
  • Leveling help, 5 of 5

Weaknesses

  • Utility, 2 of 5

What would move it: Better utility for this spec, from a patch or from item stats once Forever publishes them, would lift it; relative scores also move when another profession's evidence changes.

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Leatherworking C tier

Leather is the Rogue's armor and covers much of the leveling climb, with Devilsaur pieces buyable.

Best partner: Skinning

Scores for Leatherworking
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 4
Leveling help25 5
Gold20 1
Utility15 1

Weighted score 3.20, which is C tier.

Self-use at 60, 4 of 5: Devilsaur Gauntlets/Leggings (Rare BoE, Classic BiS physical DPS but Forever stats unverified), Black Dragonscale and armor kits are buyable; Core and Wild Leather kits have BoP patterns.

Leveling help, 5 of 5: Leather is the Rogue's armor: Handstitched, Nightscape (200-230) and Wild Leather/Tough Scorpid (215-245) cover much of the climb, and recipes turn yellow 25 skill earlier.

Utility, 1 of 5: Camp Tent is rested XP only; quivers and pouches are no use to a Rogue.

Gold, 1 of 5: 1.65 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Skinning beside it: Its own beast kills feed leather.

It is not B: it scores 1 of 5 on gold, and its 3.20 is 0.05 short of B.

Strengths

  • Self-use at 60, 4 of 5
  • Leveling help, 5 of 5

Weaknesses

  • Gold, 1 of 5
  • Utility, 1 of 5

What would move it: Its gold score follows the Professions for Gold: Settled list; a better reading there would lift it.

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Skinning C tier

Skinning its own kills gives leather income and feeds Leatherworking, plus a one-hour Camp Chair crit buff.

Best partner: Leatherworking

Scores for Skinning
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 4
Leveling help25 5
Gold20 1
Utility15 1

Weighted score 3.20, which is C tier.

Self-use at 60, 4 of 5: Camp Chair gives +2% crit to all attacks and a Rogue has no Moonkin Aura clash, though it is a one-hour camp item.

Leveling help, 5 of 5: Skinning its own kills turns them into leather income and feeds Leatherworking; a corpse skins only once and Master of Anatomy is absent.

Utility, 1 of 5: Field Guide and Trapper's Workbench camp items are occasional conveniences.

Gold, 1 of 5: 2.05 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Leatherworking beside it: Leather feeds the Rogue's armor.

It is not B: it scores 1 of 5 on gold, and its 3.20 is 0.05 short of B.

Strengths

  • Self-use at 60, 4 of 5
  • Leveling help, 5 of 5

Weaknesses

  • Gold, 1 of 5
  • Utility, 1 of 5

What would move it: Its gold score follows the Professions for Gold: Settled list; a better reading there would lift it.

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Cooking C tier

Stat food is used each raid and gives +5% kill XP while leveling (fan-sourced), though it is buyable.

Best partner: Engineering

Scores for Cooking
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 4
Leveling help25 4
Gold20 1
Utility15 1

Weighted score 2.95, which is C tier.

Self-use at 60, 4 of 5: Nearly all food gives a stat boost, buyable but used each raid; Cookie's Feast is Stamina food.

Leveling help, 4 of 5: Food gives about +5% kill XP for 15 minutes (fan-sourced) and saves downtime.

Utility, 1 of 5: Campfire kits hold 3-10 items; a convenience.

Gold, 1 of 5: 1.80 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Engineering beside it: Food is minor; Engineering does the most alongside it.

It is not B: it scores 1 of 5 on gold, and its 2.95 is 0.30 short of B.

Strengths

  • Self-use at 60, 4 of 5
  • Leveling help, 4 of 5

Weaknesses

  • Gold, 1 of 5
  • Utility, 1 of 5

What would move it: Its gold score follows the Professions for Gold: Settled list; a better reading there would lift it.

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Enchanting C tier

Own-gear enchants are buyable and help leveling a little; wands, staves and relics are not Rogue items.

Best partner: Engineering

Scores for Enchanting
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 4
Leveling help25 2
Gold20 3
Utility15 1

Weighted score 2.85, which is C tier.

Self-use at 60, 4 of 5: Weapon and gear enchants on own gear are Classic-standard and buyable; Forever enchant detail was not researched, and staves, orbs and relics are not Rogue items.

Leveling help, 2 of 5: Enchanting own leveling gear and disenchanting greens gives modest help; crafted wands vendor for 1 copper and a Rogue does not wear them.

Utility, 1 of 5: Enchanted Lute camp buff copies Mark of the Wild; Arcane Salvager is a minor convenience.

Gold, 3 of 5: 2.55 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Engineering beside it: Needs no gatherer; Engineering gives the Rogue the best utility and satchels.

It is not B: it scores 2 of 5 on leveling help, and its 2.85 is 0.40 short of B.

Strengths

  • Self-use at 60, 4 of 5

Weaknesses

  • Leveling help, 2 of 5
  • Utility, 1 of 5

What would move it: Better leveling help for this spec, from a patch or from item stats once Forever publishes them, would lift it; relative scores also move when another profession's evidence changes.

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Herbalism D tier

Nothing a Rogue wears or uses; Find Herbs and herb sales only add some leveling income.

Best partner: Alchemy

Scores for Herbalism
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 1
Leveling help25 4
Gold20 5
Utility15 1

Weighted score 2.55, which is D tier.

Self-use at 60, 1 of 5: Nothing a Rogue wears or uses; Incense Candle gives Intellect and Lifeblood is not in the client.

Leveling help, 4 of 5: Find Herbs and herb sales turn travel into some income, helping part of the climb.

Utility, 1 of 5: Greenhouse and herb tracking are occasional conveniences; the Rogue has no healing use for them.

Gold, 5 of 5: 4.00 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Alchemy beside it: Alchemy turns its herbs into the Rogue's raid elixirs.

It is not C: it scores 1 of 5 on self-use at 60, and its 2.55 is 0.20 short of C.

Strengths

  • Leveling help, 4 of 5
  • Gold, 5 of 5

Weaknesses

  • Self-use at 60, 1 of 5
  • Utility, 1 of 5

What would move it: Better self-use at 60 for this spec, from a patch or from item stats once Forever publishes them, would lift it; relative scores also move when another profession's evidence changes.

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Blacksmithing D tier

Its BoE weapons are buyable and its leveling belts and boots are chain or plate, not Rogue gear.

Best partner: Mining

Scores for Blacksmithing
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 4
Leveling help25 2
Gold20 1
Utility15 1

Weighted score 2.45, which is D tier.

Self-use at 60, 4 of 5: BoE weapons (Dawn's Edge, Blazing Rapier, Annihilator) are buyable and the data does not say which a Rogue wields; stones stack with poisons (announced 7 Oct).

Leveling help, 2 of 5: Its level 12-50 BoP belts and boots are chain or plate, not Rogue gear, so it costs ore and gives little back.

Utility, 1 of 5: Sharpening Wheel (Strength 34) has no class-buff clash for a Rogue but is a modest one-hour camp buff; Anvil and Master Forge add little.

Gold, 1 of 5: 2.05 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Mining beside it: Ore feeds its smithing.

It is not C: it scores 1 of 5 on gold, and its 2.45 is 0.30 short of C.

Strengths

  • Self-use at 60, 4 of 5

Weaknesses

  • Leveling help, 2 of 5
  • Gold, 1 of 5
  • Utility, 1 of 5

What would move it: Its gold score follows the Professions for Gold: Settled list; a better reading there would lift it.

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Mining D tier

Ore sells and feeds Engineering, but gives no combat help and Lodestone clashes with Blessing of Might.

Best partner: Engineering

Scores for Mining
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 2
Leveling help25 2
Gold20 5
Utility15 1

Weighted score 2.45, which is D tier.

Self-use at 60, 2 of 5: Lodestone (Attack Power 90) is a camp buff that clashes with Blessing of Might and has no other Rogue use; Toughness is not in the client.

Leveling help, 2 of 5: Ore sells and feeds Engineering and Blacksmithing; starter veins reduced; no combat help.

Utility, 1 of 5: Lodestone and Rock Garden are minor camp items.

Gold, 5 of 5: 3.75 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Engineering beside it: Metal feeds Engineering, the Rogue's best crafting profession.

It is not C: it scores 2 of 5 on self-use at 60, and its 2.45 is 0.30 short of C.

Strengths

  • Gold, 5 of 5

Weaknesses

  • Self-use at 60, 2 of 5
  • Leveling help, 2 of 5
  • Utility, 1 of 5

What would move it: Better self-use at 60 for this spec, from a patch or from item stats once Forever publishes them, would lift it; relative scores also move when another profession's evidence changes.

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Fishing F tier

Costs leveling time for little back, and Fish Bowl clashes with Blessing of Kings.

Best partner: Engineering

Scores for Fishing
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 2
Leveling help25 1
Gold20 1
Utility15 1

Weighted score 1.40, which is F tier.

Self-use at 60, 2 of 5: Fish Bowl +8% all stats clashes with Blessing of Kings; fish feed Cooking.

Leveling help, 1 of 5: Takes time and gives a leveling Rogue little back.

Utility, 1 of 5: Fishing Rack/Hut and lures are minor conveniences.

Gold, 1 of 5: 2.25 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Engineering beside it: No material link; Engineering is the best primary for a Rogue.

It is not D: it scores 2 of 5 on self-use at 60, and its 1.40 is 0.85 short of D.

Weaknesses

  • Self-use at 60, 2 of 5
  • Leveling help, 1 of 5
  • Gold, 1 of 5
  • Utility, 1 of 5

What would move it: Better self-use at 60 for this spec, from a patch or from item stats once Forever publishes them, would lift it; relative scores also move when another profession's evidence changes.

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Tailoring F tier

Rogues wear leather, so Tailoring offers no gear or consumables, only cloth and bags.

Best partner: Engineering

Scores for Tailoring
CriterionWeightScore
Self-use at 6040 1
Leveling help25 2
Gold20 1
Utility15 1

Weighted score 1.25, which is F tier.

Self-use at 60, 1 of 5: Rogues wear leather; Faction Banner (Spirit 32) is useless and Tailoring has no Rogue gear or consumables.

Leveling help, 2 of 5: Cloth sells and Linen to Woolen bags help space, but bags are reagent-slot items and nothing upgrades a Rogue.

Utility, 1 of 5: Reagent bags and Spinning Wheel are minor; whether non-soul reagent bags fit is untested.

Gold, 1 of 5: 1.85 on the Professions for Gold: Settled list.

Why Engineering beside it: Tailoring does little for a Rogue; Engineering does the most.

It is not D: it scores 1 of 5 on self-use at 60, and its 1.25 is 1.00 short of D.

Weaknesses

  • Self-use at 60, 1 of 5
  • Leveling help, 2 of 5
  • Gold, 1 of 5
  • Utility, 1 of 5

What would move it: Better self-use at 60 for this spec, from a patch or from item stats once Forever publishes them, would lift it; relative scores also move when another profession's evidence changes.

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